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Frisco Lakes Information

Information
- 9 Things They Wish They Knew Before Moving to at 55+ Community @ youtube.com (06/24)
- Avoid Living in a 55+ Community @ youtube.com (10/24)
- Pros and Cons of Del Webb Communities @ educationalwave.com (06/24)
  - The homes are customizable with a 10-year transferrable warranty
  - Del Webb is part of the PulteGroup
- Frisco Lakes Demographics @ point2homes.com (06/24)
- Frisco Lakes @ 55places.com (06/24)
  - Construction dates: 2006-2020
  - Is NOT gated
- Del Webb HOA (10/24)
Frisco Lakes Portals
- Frisco Lakes Community Association (Active Net) (12/24)
- Frisco Lakes Community Association Sign In (Active Net) (12/24)
  - Signed up for the AMC Workshop
- Architectural Modification Committee (AMC)
  - Modification Application Workshop (12/24)
    - Jan 9, 2025 at 9 am
    - Social Room I, Social Room II
    - Northside Village Center, 7955 Anthem Drive 972-403-8283
Groups
- FriscoLakes.net (01/25)
  - Frisco Lakes Ukulele Group
    - Debbie Marshall
    - debbie.marshall53@gmail.com
    - 469-231-5028
    - Ukulele Group meets on Thursday at 9:30-11:30 in West Village Center, Meeting Room 1
  - jayhobson23@gmail.com
    - LLG250A Learn to Play the Ukulele @ Frisco Lakes (01/25)
    - Students will need to provide their own Soprano, Concert, or Tenor Ukulele
Neighborhood Maps (75034 and 75036)
- Frisco Zip Codes @ frisco.com (10/24)
- Frisco Lakes Overview Map 2016 (PDF) (06/24)
- Frisco Lakes 2023 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 1 Lazy Rock Lane (06/24)
- Neighborhood 2 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 3 Fish Hook Lane; Trout Lane (06/24)
- Neighborhood 4 Shore Shadows Lane (06/24)
- Neighborhood 5 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 6 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 7 Honeybee Lane (06/24)
- Neighborhood 8 Honeybee Lane (06/24)
- Neighborhood 9 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 10 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 11 Dexter Lane (06/24)
- Neighborhood 14 Celebration Drive (06/24)
- Neighborhood 15 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 18 Faldo Court; Birmingham Forest Drive (06/24)
- Neighborhood 19 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 21 Hogan Court (06/24)
- Neighborhood 22 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 23 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 24 (11/24)
- Neighborhood 25 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 26 Montague Lane (06/24)
- Neighborhood 27 Oakmont Drive (06/24)
- Neighborhood 28 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 29 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 31 Marble Ridge (06/24)
- Neighborhood 33 (06/24)
- Neighborhood 35 Marsh Point Drive (06/24)
Floor Plans
- Floor Plans @ thestacygoup.com (06/24)

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7268 Ponte Vedra

7268 Ponte Vedra Dr, Frisco, TX 75036 (realtor.com) (10/24)
- 3/2/2; 1708 sq ft; built in 2014; $399,900
- Price: $440,000 (July) ==> $399,900 (Oct)
- Zestimate is $388,700 (range of $369,000-$408,000) on Zillow (108 days on Zillow; 11/06)
- NEIGHBORHOOD 24
- Taft Street floor plan
- Former Pulte Model Home with EXTENDED 2nd Living Room
- Wood floors in the Great Room, kitchen, and sunroom
- Pull-down shades
- Hardware is oil-rubbed bronze (much too dark)
- L-shaped kitchen; island faces a double-door pantry
- 30" FREESTANDING GAS RANGE
- Rock wall in office (9' x 11'); no door; has closet
- OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE A DOOR
- Bedrooom #2: 10' x 10'
- Living room wall (front to back): 9 1/2' wall; laundry door; 7' wall; pantry doors
- Double-door pantry (4' wide) is across from the island (88" x 46")
- Master: 13' x 14 1/2'
- Master wall: 6" wall; 36" window; 77" wall; 36" window; 6" wall
- Master closet: 5' x 8'; it is MUCH TOO DARK
- Bedroom #2 closet: 5'
- Coat closet: 38"
- Linen closet: 42"
- Master bathroom has a shower and NO tub; it has oiled bronze fixtures
- 2nd Living Room: 12 1/2' x 17' (room, not a sunroom)
- Does not have ANY patio
- Washer, dryer, and refrigerator could convey (for a good price)
- Hot water heater is tanked and in the garage; installed in 2014
- HVAC has 2014 inside coil condenser, and 2019 outside condenser unit
- Bought in 2019
- Back door faces Frisco Lakes Dr, and is across from the main building
- Near the Amenity Center and Frisco Lakes Drive
HVAC
- 2014 inside coil; 2019 outside condenser unit

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Changes, for Ponte Vedra

Exterior
- Wash the outside of the door; paint the inside door white
- Remove the big conifer in front of the porch
- Remove the decorative grass in front of the porch
- Fix the "stone porch" in the back
- Add Red Yuca around the yard
- Plant mint around the house
  - Mints @ hortipm.tamu.edu (11/24)
    - They prefer some shade, but will grow amply in full sun
    - To grow mint plants from seed, sow 1/8" deep, barely covering with fine soil,
      and keep moist
    - Seeds will germinate in ten to twenty days
  - Mint @ centraltexasgardener.org (11/24)
    - In scorching-hot Texas, my mint does much better with about half a day of shade
    - To keep it bushy, pinch or cut back frequently
    - It can be invasive
    - Starting from a plant is much faster
  - Growing Mint @ bonnieplants.com (11/24)
- Mouse/Rat Repellent
  - Shake-Away Repellent Granules for Rodents at Ace Hardware (Old Denton & Frankford; $22.99) (11/24)
  - Mouse Repellent Pouches @ homedepot.com (4PK; $14.99) (11/24)
- Leaf Bags
  - Ace Ampac 30 gal Lawn & Leaf Bags, Flap Tie @ acehardware.com (5 pk; $2.99) (11/24)
    - 25 pk; $14.99 (same price)
Kitchen
- Kitchen: run 240-volt line from the garage to the kitchen
- Get electric range
  - GE 30" Glass Top 4-Element 5.3 ct ft Free Standing Electric Range @ lowes.com ($579.00) (11/24)
    - Steam cleans
    - Drawer to store pans
  - GE 30" Glass Top 5-Element 5.3 cu ft Self Cleaning Electric Range @ lowes ($779.00) (11/24)
    - NOT THIS ONE!
    - Knobs on front of range
    - Need Trim Kit for the back of the range ($106)
    - Knobs turn on while you are using the oven
  - Frigidaire 30" Electric Range @ lowes.com ($629.00) (11/24)
    - EasyCare Stainless Steel Finish which resists fingerprints
    - 5 elements; Steam Clean; storage drawer; 5.3 cu ft
    - Lower heating elements are beneath the oven floor (smooth surface)
    - CONTROLS ARE IN FRONT OF THE ELEMENTS; does have control lockout
    - Power cord sold separately
    - Power source: plug-in
    - Simmer element
    - No app; no bluetooth; no Wi-Fi
    - Hitting Start after setting the clock, as per the guide, causes a blinking
      light above Start to appear. I then hit Stop to turn off the light. This saved the
      change I made to the clock time.
    - The only fault is that there is no sealed molding around the cooktop
    - The burners are almost as responsive as gas
    - The front lip becomes very hot
    - When the oven is on the stovetop knob gets so hot that you will burn your fingers
- Tile the kitchen floor
  - 180 sq ft of tile; 1 bag of grout; 2 grout caulk
  - Jose Del Angel (J.J.); 214-991-4598
- Kitchen needs new faucet (brushed nickel?)
  - Delta Collins Lever Single-Handle Standard Kitchen Faucet in Stainless @ homedepot.com ($142.13) (11/24)
    - 96 available at West Plano store
  - Sink Faucet Aerator, 720-degree Swivel @ amazon.com ($18.99) (11/24)
    - Bubbling water flow and pressurized spray
    - Made of solid brass, and 5-layer electroplating
    - 55/64"-27 Female Thread Aerator
    - 15/16"-27 Male Threaded Adapter is included
    - If you faucet is female thread, use the adapter (included) to connect
    - May need black ring around the adapter
    - What You Need to Know About Faucet Aerators @ blog.conservationmart.com (11/24)
      - Male aerator has threads on the outside of the aerator;
        in the US, the thread size is 15/16 inch - 27 (Delta aerators are male)
      - Female aerator had threads on the inside of the aerator;
        in the US, the thread size is 55/64 - 27
      - A dual-thread aerator allows you to fit into both male and female spouts
- Pantry needs new FIXED (dummy) handles (brushed nickel, not dark oiled bronze)
  - Kwikset Balboa Satin Nickel Left-Handed Dummy Door Handle @ lowes.com ($12.48) (11/24)
  - Kwikset Balboa Satin Nickel Right-Handed Dummy Door Handle @ lowes.com ($12.48) (11/24)
- Protection for stainless steel divided sink
  - MEASURE SINK
  - Snuggery 2PCS Silicone Sink Protector 12"x14" Rear Drain Hole @ amazon.com ($17.99) (11/24)
- Refrigerators
  - In the kitchen
    - Frigidaire Gallery GRSS2652AF3 (manufactured in 07/2023)
    - Side-by-side
      - Frigidaire Gallery 25.6 cu ft @ frigidaire.com ($1,198) (11/24)
      - Frigidaire GRSS2652AF manual (11/24)
  - In the garage
    - Whirlpool
    - WRF535SWBM00 (11/24)
    - Whirlpool WRF535SMBM User Manual (11/24)
    - Ice maker doesn't work(?)
Lighting
- Need smoke detectors
- Master closet is MUCH TOO DARK; needs new light fixture or can lights
- Living Room, 2nd Living Room, and Master Bedroom have 52" bronze ceiling fans
  - We are keeping those
- Bedroom #2
  - Has a brown ceiling fan with lights
  - Lumens to watts Conversion Chart @ voltlighting.com (11/24)
    - LED lights are about 7 times more efficient at producing light
    - 60-watt incandenscent bulb ~= 9-watt LED light
  - Needs a flush-mount ceiling light
Bathrooms
- Master bathroom
  - Change shower nozzle to hand-held unit (in the future)
  - Moen HydroEnergetix Bronze 4.75" Fixed Shower Head @ lowes.com ($44.98) (11/24)
  - Remove the headknocker cabinet
- Bathroom #2
  - Remove the headknocker cabinet
Bedrooms
- Bedroom #2
  - Add a small, white ceiling LIGHT, not a ceiling fan
  - Find small 3-cube storage or dresser (white, <18" wide)
  - Find small nightstand (white, <18" wide)
Office
- Add a pair of doors (with windows) to the office
  - Looking at the CLOSED door, the hinges are visible on the LEFT side, and the
    knob is visible on the RIGHT side
  - I want a RIGHT HAND door
  - Determing the Hand of a Door @ naturalhandyman.com (11/24)
- Lowes
  - JELD-WEN ReliaBilt Colonist Primed 6-Panel Prehung Door 36"x80" ($144.00) (11/24)
    - Right Hand door (knob on left and opens into the Living Room)
    - In Stock: 32"x80" , 34"x80", and 36"x80"
    - In stock at Carrollton Lowes
    - Needs oiled bronze handle (lever)
Carpentry
- Remove two headknocker cabinets
Carpet and Paint
- Bedrooms need new carpet
- Paint the whole house
- Fill in holes in the walls

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Colors, for Ponte Vedra

Outside of the house
- Outside trim is SW 7037: Balanced Beige (11/24)
- Other outside trim is SW7036: Accessible Beige (lighter than my house)
- Wash the outside of the house
- Paint the INSIDE of the front door white (like the other doors)
Possible Carpet Colors
- Carpet @ 3644 Amber Hills Drive: Mohawk Horizon SP50 03 (F) (11/24)
- ProSource of Allen (11/24)
  - 25 Prestige Circle, Allen, TX 75002
  - Parkwood N ==> Windhaven Pkway E ==> merge with Spring Creek Pkway E ==>
    under 75 E ==> Ave K N (left) ==> becomes S Greenville Ave N ==> cross Bethany Dr N ==>
    NW corner of Prestige Circle & Greenville Ave (next to Caliber Collision)
  - Mon-Fri: 8:00am-5:00pm (Tue & Thu until 7:00pm)
  - 972-449-0356
  - Kat Krug; 469-438-0368; katherinek@prosourcetexas.com
  - Carpet was Canyon Lake (style); Calm Ivory (color)
Tile Color
- Travertini Bianco Porcelain Tile @ flooranddeccor.com (12"x24"; $2.69/sq ft) (11/24)
- Tile was Forum Silver (912102825; $1.99/sq ft); grout was Ivory (not the lighter Alabaster)
Wall Colors
- SW7006 Extra White (trim) (11/24)
- SW 7567 Natural Tan (11/24)

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Bathrooms

Bathroom Storage
- IKEA Hornavan Cart, White @ ikea.com ($22.99) (02/25)
- Kuggis Box with Lid, White @ ikea.com (5 x 7 x 3 1/4"; $2.99) (02/25)
- Kuggis Box, White @ ikea.com (5 x 7 x 3 1/4"; $1.99) (02/25)
- Kuggis Lid, White @ ikea.com (5 x 7"; $1.00) (02/25)
Mats
Freestanding Toilet Paper Holder
- Gatco 1436BZ Bronze Toilet Paper Holder @ amazon.com ($37.22) (12/24)
  - Bought this one on 12/5/2024 from Amazon
Shelf Liner
- Xtreme Mats Beige 0.75" H x 28.25" W x 19.25" D @ wayfair.com ($44.95) (11/24)
  - For Bonnie's vanity floor
- Duck EasyLiner Smooth Top, White, 12" x 20 ft @ walmart.com (Frisco H17; $12.48) (12/24)
- Duck EasyLiner Smooth Top, White, 20" x 18 ft @ walmart.com (Frisco H17; $16.97) (12/24)
- Duck Clear Classic 24" x 10 ft @ lowes.com (Carrollton Lowes Aisle 14 | Bay 24;
  Frisco Aisle 34 | Bath 10) (12/24)
Shower Curtain Rings
- Amazer Plastic Shower Curtain Rings, Clear, 24 Pieces @ amazon.com ($6.94) (12/24)
  - Bought this from Amazon on 12/5/2024
Gerber Toilet
- Gerber toilets (12/24)
- The model number is located on the back wall inside the tank, near the water line
- Gerber Maxwell series 28-990 (tank); 1.28 gpf/4.8 Lpf; 1.5 gpf/6.0 Lpf
- Toilet itself is 16 1/4" tall (ADA height -- 15-17 inches)
- Opening is 15 1/2" long x 11" wide (oval opening)
- Holes are 5 1/2" apart
- From holes ==> front of bowl is ~19" long (elongated is 18 9/16" long)
- Current seat is 17 1/2" long x 14 1/4" wide
- Current lid is 16" long x ~12" wide
Gerber Toilet Seat
- G0099213 Gerber Slow Close, Elongated, Non-Slip, Plastic, White Toilet Seat @ wayfair.com ($72.80) (12/24)
- Gerber 99-213 Slow Close, Elongated, Non-Slip, Plastic, White Toilet Sea @ gerberparts.com ($96.01) (12/24)
- Spec Sheet for Gerber Elongated Toilet Seat (12/24)
  - Length: 18 5/8" - 18 7/8" (front to center of mounting holes)
  - Width: 14" (some people said this was a little too narrow)
- Gerber G0099213 Slow Close, Elongated Toilet Seat with Cover, White @ amazon.com ($72.80) (12/24)
  - Product Dimensions: 18.88"L x 14"W
  - This Gerber toilet seat does not fit my toilet like the original one. While it says
    it is 14 inches wide, that is the seat cover. The actual seat is only about 13 1/2 inches
    wide and does not fully cover the sides of the bowl. It is also not as comfortable as my
    original one because it is narrower.
  - Could be a touch wider to be a perfect fit on our toilet.
- BEMIS Kimball Soft Close Elongated Toilet Set @ homedepot.com (Carrollton Aisle 29 | Bay 015;$29.98) (12/24)
  - 19 in x 14.313 in x 1.938 in

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Furniture, Bedding

Chairs for Ponte Vedra
- Elkberget/Makskar Chairs @ idea.com ($69.99) (02/25)
- Loberget/Malskar Chairs @ ikea.com ($59.99) (02/25)
- Pynten Seat Pad in Dark Gray @ ikea.com ($10.00) (02/25)
Dining Table for Ponte Vedra
- Melltorp Table, White @ ikea.com ($99.99) (12/24)
  - 49 1/4" L x 29 1/2" W x 29 1/2" H
  - Metal frame (steel) with smooth melamine tabletop
  - Instructions for the Underframe (12/24)
  - Comes in two packages
    - Tabletop: 30" W x 51" L x 3/4" H (26 lb)
    - Underframe: 5" W x 58" L x 2 1/2" H (21 lb)
  - Normal hours: 10am - 9pm
- NOSHEART Faux Leather Red/Black Placemats with Coasters @ walmart.com ($13.99) (01/25)
  - Ordered on 02/11/2025
Bonnie's Bedroom at Ponte Vedra
- Mainstays Ardent Open Shelf Nightstand, White @ walmart.com ($39.00) (11/24)
  - Overall Dimensions: 20.5" H x 15.5" W x 15.5" D
- Dresser for tiny bedroom
  - Better Homes & Gardens 3-Cube Storage Organizer, White Texture @ walmart.com ($54.44) (11/24)
    - Assembled dimensions: 16.42" w x 15.35" d x 43.35" h
    - Features three 13" x 15" x 13" compartments
    - Compatible with Better Homes & Gardens Cube Storage Bins
    - Easy to assemble with included instructions (hammer, Phillips head screwdriver
      & flat head screwdriver required)
    - White Texture (BHD036118664010)
    - Assembly Instructions (11/24)
  - Better Homes & Gardens H Shelf Insert @ walmart.com ($14.84) (11/24)
    - WON'T WORK WITH BH&G STORAGE CUBES
    - Inside dimension is 12.25" w x 15.3" d x 6.3" h
    - Can pickup at Dallas Supercenter today
  - JAKAGO Fabric Storage Bins, 4, Low-Beige @ amazon.com ($22.99) (11/24)
    - Dimensions are 15.35"L x 11.42"W x 5.51"H
    - WILL work with H insert

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Kitchen

Kitchen Cabinets
- Kitchen Cabinets
  - Leftmost vitamin cabinet: 31 1/2" W
    - Large Cabinet Shelf 16 1/2" W x 10" D x 5 1/4" D @ containerstore.com ($10.99) (01/25)
    - Buy TWO of these shelves
  - Rightmost vitamin cabinet: 28 1/2" W
    - Large Cabinet Shelf 16 1/2" W x 10" D x 5 1/4" D @ containerstore.com ($10.99) (01/25)
    - Medium Cabinet Shelf 12 1/2" W x 10 1/4" D x 5 3/8" H @ containerstore.com ($9.99) (01/25)
    - Buy one of each shelf
- Container Store (Plano Stonebriar)
  - 8460 Parkwood Blvd, Plano, TX 75024
  - SE corner of Parkwood and 121
  - Large Wire Shelf: 16.5" W x 10" L x 5.25" H ($10.99)
  - Large Expanding Shelf: 16.375-32.5" W x 10" L x 5.25" H ($14.99) (12/24)
    - I can't install the shelf in the desired length (hook design)
  - Medium Wire Shelf: 12.25" W x 10.25" L x 5.375" H ($9.99)
- iPEGTOP Set of 6 Large (15.7" W x 9.4" L x 5.9" H) Wire Shelves @ amazon.com ($36.99) (12/24)
- IPEGTOP Set of 2 EXPANDABLE Wire Shelves @ amazon.com ($30.99) (12/24)
  - Redrubbit Cabinet Storage Shelf, Set of 2 @ amazon.com ($30.99) (01/25)
  - 13.4"-22.8" W x 9.4" L x 5.5" H
  - This uses a different method of expanding, and might work in a cabinet
- Metal Cabinet Shelf, White @ target.com (15" W x 10" D x 6" H; $10.00) (12/24)
  - Two of these might work for a "vitamin" shelf (in left cabinet only)
- SHELFIX Melamine Cabinet Replacement Shelves @ amazon.com (12/24)
  - TOO EXPENSIVE
  - 10" x 10" x 3/4" for $14.95 (includes shipping)
  - 29" x 11" x 3/4" is about $54.00 each
Kitchen Pantry
- Pantry shelf area is 58" W x 15" H x 11" D
- Expandable Closet Shelf @ containerstore.com ($17.99) (01/25)
  - 22"-43" L x 10 1/4" D x 7 1/2" H
  - This is perfect for the pantry, but won't work in the kitchen cabinets
- Style Selections 13.58" W x 6.1" H x 7.09" D White Metal Plate Rack @ lowes.com ($8.98) (01/25)
  - This might work on the top shelf of the pantry
Countertop Microwave
- Top Ten Countertop Microwaves @ buyersguide.org (12/24)
- High-End Microwaves Include Inverters for Marketing, Not Performance @ rtings.com (01/25)
- Toshiba EM131A5C-SS Microwave @ amazon.com ($130.00) (01/25)
  - Stainless Steel: EM131A5C-SS; Black Stainless Steel: EM131A5C-BS
  - 1.2 cu ft; 12.4" turntable; 1100 watts
  - MUTE FUNCTION (press the button "8" for 3-4 seconds)
  - Silver (with white interior?) or black (with black interior?)
  - Large digital display
  - White START button with +30secs
  - Red STOP/CANCEL button
  - One-touch start (1 to 6 minutes)
  - Can set three FAVORITE cooking settings
  - Lock the microwave by pressing the STOP pad for 3 second; repeat to unlock
  - Instructions For Use (01/25)
  - Microwave Solo Oven Instruction (EM131A5C-BS) (01/25)
  - Microwave Info @ homedepot.com (out of stock) (01/25)
  - Review of EM131A5C-BS @ rtings.com (does not have inverter technology) (01/25)
- Panasonic Microwave NN-SN686S Countertop with Inverter Technology @ amazon.com ($199.99) (12/24)
  - NN-SN686S User Manual (12/24)
  - Staggered keypad and white inside
  - Press Power Level and then Cooking Time
  - Inverter technology (up to 40% faster)
  - Turbo Defrost, and Genius Sensor (codes on bottom of cavity)
  - 1.2 cu ft, 1200 W
  - 15.8" D x 20.7" W x 12.2" H
  - Child Safety Lock (does not affect the door); pushbutton release
  - Turntable diameter: 13.4"
  - Internal dimensions: 9 15/16" H x 13 15/16" W x 14 3/8" D
  - Quick minute timer; quick 30 seconds
  - Keep Warm Feature
  - Can turn the beep off
- Panasonic Microwave NN-SN67K, Stainless Steel/Silver @ amazon.com (newer version; $219.95) (12/24)
  - NN-SN67K User Manual (12/24)
  - Keypad is "straight", not "staggered"
  - Dark gray inside
  - I think the old version had an all-black box with some stainless steel on the front
  - Now the box is silver and the front has some stainless steel
Electric Range
- GE Profile Electric Cooktop (at Amber Hills) (12/24)
  - Elements
    - Left Front 6" 1200W
    - Left Rear 8" 2500W -- Power Boil
    - Right Front 12"/9" 2700W
    - Right Rear 6" 1200W
  - Power
    - Amp Rating at 208V: 30 watts
    - Amp Rating at 240V: 40 watts
- Samsung
  - Samsung 6.3 cu ft Self & Steam Cleaning Air Fry Convection Oven @ lowes.com ($799.99 until Dec 11, then $1249.00) (12/24)
    - Item #3648609 | Model #NE63A6711SS
    - Removable Non-stick Griddle
    - Convection+
    - Flexible 5-Burner Cooktop
    - Air fry tray included
    - Five burners
      - Right Front: 6"/9"/12" Triple Ring Burner, 3000 W
      - Left Front: Griddle Burner, 1800 W
      - Right Rear: 6", 1200 W
      - Left Rear: Griddle Burner, 1800 W
      - Center: Warming Center, 100 W
    - Hidden bake element
  - User Manual (12/24)
  - Dimensions Guide (12/24)
  - Warranty Guide (12/24)
- Miscellaneous
  - Stove Top Covers for Electric Stove @ amazon.com ($19.99) (12/24)
    - 28" L x 20" W x 1" thick